Hello, hello, guys. Welcome back to another episode of the BigAppleSchool podcast with the goal of this show is to help you improve your English skills by listening to us. So, guys, welcome. We have three guests today. Our first guest is...
And last but not least...
So welcome, guys. What's new this week?
You had a haircut? Nice. Where do you get your haircut?
The place that you recommended me. Around the corner, yeah.
Oh, is that the place in the central market of Novosibirsk?
Yeah, yeah. It's a close to Москва shopping center, I guess.
Well, for those of us who are not from Novosibirsk, this place is right in the center of Novosibirsk.
This is the market with a lot of, yeah, really good, cheap hairdresser or barbers.
Yeah. So how much does a haircut cost in the center market?
250 rubles, yeah. 250 rubles, yeah.
So. Yeah. How much do you pay for a haircut in your home country?
It depends on the hairdresser that you visit. So mostly, like I can say, in dinars. Like 500 dinars like this.
Yeah. Well, what's that roughly in rubles?
I need to, like, check it up.
Yeah, yeah. Olga, how much is a haircut for ladies here?
I'm not quite sure as far as I haven't had it for like two years because, you know, I'm trying to...
Have long hair now. Yeah, but when I did that, it was about like, you know, 1000.
Yeah. 1000. More like 1000. Yeah, yeah, one hundred, yeah...
Yeah. Again, it depends. It depends on what you want to do. So it can be either a 500 rubles, it can be 1000. It could be like 3000 sometimes.
It's more expensive for girls, for women.
Why is it more expensive for women?
I don't know. Like we don't do anything special, actually.
Yeah, they just snip snip.
No, actually, they take longer time than us, you know.
Really, yeah. Sometimes 2 hours, 3 hours.
Or that might be a risk assessment. If they don't want that or if they don't like it, they would calculate the time that hairdresser spends as an extra.
So that might be. The reason that they're charging extra.
Fair enough. Fair enough.
A business approach, sorry.
Right you are. What else is new?
Well, I finally listened to Rammstein new album yesterday finally. Even though it came out, you know, several months ago. But, you know, I just wasn't in the feeling to listen to it. And yesterday I was, you know, so tired after work. And I was like, okay, I got to do something new. I got to have some new experience. And, gosh, I spend an hour dancing. And, yeah, it was amazing.
Why used to? What happened?
It depends, like I used to listen to hard rock music.
Rock, metal, you know, death metal symphonic. Gothic, even.
Oh. Okay. But what happened?
Now I just follow some symphonic death metal. It's a band from Finland. It's called Insomnia, but not all the time. For example, I haven't listened to them since weeks now. It depends on the mood.
Oh, cool. So you can kind of understand.
Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, those words are not, you know, good words sometimes. Yeah.
What's your favorite song in the latest album? Deutschland?
But it's not any latest, I guess.
I haven't followed Rammstein for a long time.
Okay. So then the latest latest, okay.
Yeah, yeah. They have the new one after that one.
Yeah, I mean, I found a new way to work. I found shortcut to work, which is nice. And, yeah, it shaves 10 minutes off my commute.
Yes. I hope it's always going to be available. Basically, I have to walk through a stadium, the Lokomotiv Stadium here in Novosibirsk. And sometimes they have an open gate. Sometimes. I hope it's not closed. So...
So I was also reading another news story which we found quite funny. It's in Yakutsk, so I think you, guys, know Yakutsk, yeah. So really cold part of the country. And they just had a vote on as to whether to receive Internet access in a small part of the province. So you have Yakutia and Yakutsk. And, yeah, this small village did not have Internet access, and they could not vote on whether to have Internet access because the vote took place online.
Right. So, yeah, that happens here.
I don't know. So, yeah, that was a pretty funny little news story of the week. All right, guys. Well, just to let you know, before we start the main part of the podcast, just need to let you know that we have our podcast on a few platforms, most notably Mave, Apple Podcast, and we also have VK, Castbox. And of course you can find the podcast on the telegram chat for the BigAppleSchool.
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If you want to, if you want to have like a podcast on a topic that you're interested in, let us know. Please share your thoughts. So, guys, are you guys liers?
Yeah, but in a professional manner, so, yeah.
We're going to be talking about today. Well, today's topic is going to be Honesty and Lying. So you're liers.
Well, everyone lies at some point.
Yes. I think it's impossible to get through your life without lying.
Yeah, it's not possible, yeah.
But lying is not the only word to describe something like specific. It has many things in its, you know.
And it can be for righteous things. And it can be for wrong things.
Right. So it's not like, well, when people say that, I don't know, someone's lying, they always consider it to be something bad. But again, it's not always bad. Like it can be white lies and it's like, you know, absolutely different kind of lying, I guess. And I wouldn't even say that it's lying. So, again, it depends on your perception, I guess.
What would be? Do you have an example of a good lie?
Like a good lie in a wrong way or righteous way?
Well, in a righteous way, yeah.
Righteous way. Okay. Let's say you want to protect someone you love from something. So you lie in order to protect that person.
So it happens to me all the time. When my boyfriend gets ill, he's like, Oh, I'm okay. I'm fine. That's okay. Don't worry. And I'm like, Okay. And then, like, you know, maybe two weeks later, I find out that he actually was really sick, but he didn't tell me about that.
So, like, I'm not, What's happening, are you okay? And so I just don't ask him about that all the time. So it's kind of white lies because he's trying to protect my nerves. So, yeah, I don't consider it lying. I'm actually really grateful for that.
So, yeah, why do us men, why do we not like to go to the doctor? I mean, I hate going to the doctor.
Do you like going to the doctor, Ayoub?
Yeah. It's just not a thing for us, man.
Staying at home. Relax. Couple of tea.
Well, not all the time, but it works most of the time.
We prefer to take some risk.
Yeah, maybe. But I still don't get it like you're ill. Why not going to the doctor? Why not? Like...
Because it's too much work. It's, you're being lazy, just go out of the bed, and just make an appointment and just drive or go there. So...
Just stay at home and just sleep.
I just think the doctor sometimes makes things worse.
Yeah, they're asking too, too many questions.
Yeah, you just start thinking like, Oh, something may be wrong with me.
I was teaching the doctor, he was, like, 60 years old. He's Turkish, by the way. So, yeah, he used to tell me that like, 80% of my patients, they suffer from nothing and they just come to me.
Yeah, hypochondriac. Yes.
Well, the other week I think it was two weeks ago I had an ear infection.
And it was, it was quite painful. I couldn't really sleep well at night and I was like, Okay, just give it a few days. It's going to be fine. And to be honest, it was fine in a few days, but my wife, like, dragged me to the doctor's office.
Sure? That's what you suppose to do.
She said, No, you're getting your ear checked out. I don't care, Ben.
Did you use pencils? Instead of the doctor.
Exactly, yeah, my wife dragged me to the doctor and, yeah, it's very, very nice of her to care for me like that.
I think everybody like experience this. I have been dragged also.
You're talking about that like it's something bad. I don't know. It's like, I don't know, care.
Oh, no, no, no. It's nice.
It's nice. This action is kind of. Yeah, yeah.
We see it from the perspective of care of course, yes.
Yeah, kind of. 'Cause it doesn't matter from what country you are. Well, this story like the same everywhere.
Yeah. Generally, yeah, exactly. All right, well, have you had a situation recently where you've had to lie?
So I took my rabbit to the vet, and we have a really sweet name for it.
Oh, God, that's so sweet.
When we first got the rabbit, we think I said previously on another episode. But the rabbit. We thought it was a girl. And then we found out it was a boy. And Фуфочка would you think that's quite like a girlish name?
Yeah, it sounds like that one.
Exactly. So we took it to the vet and the vet asked, Oh, what was the name of the rabbit? And we were too embarrassed to say Фуфочка so we just, I can't remember which name we gave to rabbit.
Right. So that's one of the reasons why people lie. Just to avoid embarrassment.
Yeah. So it's not like something, you know, like you want to make harm or anything. It's just, you know, personal.
Yeah. Exactly. But, yeah, we were quite embarrassed because we were taking the rabbit to get his manhood taken away, if you know what I mean.
Yes, castrate. Exactly. We removed his.
In English we say the crown jewels.
In England. They removed his crown jewels. And, yeah, we didn't really want him going in there with an embarrassing name.
Yeah. So that was a fun little lie. I think we gave him an even more girly name. I think it was Пуся, you know? Пуся.
I guess Фуфочка was better.
It sounds stronger, you know?
The last one is humiliation.
Well, my wife said that was like a name for pets. Or is that true?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, it's so sweet for a man.
It does. Yeah. I also heard of another funny dog name, which is old. Maybe it's really old but Ерема.
Yeah. What does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
It's a name like, I guess people used to it back in the beginning of the 20th century, maybe.
I don't know anyone, really.
We were thinking of, like, what guy name can we use for our rabbit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we want a Russian name for a Russian rabbit.
So it should be something strong, I guess. Well, maybe our, you know, subscribers can tell us.
Maybe we can wait for the best name.
Yeah, that would be great.
Good little competition. So that was a lie for me. Not very big lie, but. What else?
Well, I do that, you know, really rarely that I cannot even recall the last time I lied, so...
People probably do it on a daily basis. Maybe, maybe.
Yeah, last night one of my friend called me and I said, All right, all right, man, I'm pretty busy right now. I wasn't busy, so I don't want to talk to you instead of saying that.
I don't want to talk with you right now. So I am busy, man. Let me call you back later. And when he said, Okay, all right.
And I haven't called him back yet.
That's all right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I wouldn't take it personally if I were your friend, like.
Absolutely. Yeah. We all need some, you know, private time.
That's sometimes when life is hard, you know, like and you don't have time for yourself, so you are obliged to make this lie, like, I am busy, you know?
So and do you consider it like a real like?
Some people attach too much attach on that, right? I called you and you said you told me that you are busy, but you didn't call me back again. So you are a liar. So it happened to me a couple of times.
No, it's not a lie. You are busy resting.
The last one was a total lie. I didn't want to talk to him, you know.
Well, you didn't harm anyone.
It's a white lie. I'm busy, so just let me call you back and...
Yeah, yeah, I'm busy resting and do nothing.
Well, it's actually, you know, it's really hard to do nothing, so. Yeah, you can be really busy doing that.
Just staring at the walls.
I'm busy taking care of myself.
Yeah. Oh, the other day, something funny happened, actually. So I went to the supermarket and bought some fish and, yeah. So I just scanned the tag and. And left, and I thought, oh, this is pretty cheap, actually. And it turned out that there were two tags on the fish. And I did not even know that I was like, one was a discount tag and the other one was...
Yeah. Yeah. Would you would you go back and scan both tags after having left the supermarket?
It depends on the amount of the discount.
Oh, it was ike 50 rubles. I dunno.
Yeah. Because I don't understand why they put two tags on one item. I thought one was like a discounted tag. And it turns out that, you know, you need to scan both tags. So it was like fish in. It's kind of some kind of fish and like another type of fish in one packet.
Yeah. Like a mix. Yeah. Not always it's a pretty good price. I'm going to get some fish.
So, yeah. What do you think? Do you think I should go to prison?
I don't think so. But if the amount is like on higher, then I don't know. I don't know, like a thousand or whatever. So, yeah, you should go back and all right.
Of course. Yeah, for sure.
Not 50 rubles. I don't know.
Yeah. I didn't even notice it.
Yeah. So, I'm sorry, supermarket.
But the discount was there already, so it doesn't matter I think.
You didn't do something wrong.
So that's okay. Don't worry.
We approved, approved the sentence.
Oh, they should have made it clearer, I guess, yeah, on the tag because I'm not going to like run away with 50 rubles. Like what are you going to do that for?
Sure. That's just confusing. So that's okay.
I could speak about massive scale lies.
You know, historically speaking, there are some movements in, like the development of civilizations, you can say.
So we had movements like romanticism, like modernism, colonialism, you know. So when postmodernism emerged, the type of writings, political writings and such things, they changed. So there is something we call the binary of thoughts. So they put lies inside truths. Okay, so it is binary of thoughts.
So when you read that article, you will not have your, like, a specific opinion about it because it will always have deception. Like, two ways to understand this. Okay? So and in order to execute this, they used the term euphemisms. Okay? Euphemism is when you soften a word that looks a bit harder for other people. Okay? So lying became engaged into misinformation. So they are using it since then. So it is like lying in massive scale.
Kind of instrument in a way.
Yeah, yeah, they use it against other countries. They use it against their own populations, you know? So that's a big lie, like.
So that's what I would call lying.
Absolutely, yeah. But not, like, you know, saying I'm busy.
And political ground maybe.
Yeah. Well, can you spot when someone's lying to you? Are you a good lie detector?
Well, if it's my student and if, you know, they bring me written work and tell me. Yeah, so I wrote in myself and I'm like, but I know you cannot do it this way. You cannot write it this way. So, yeah. But in that kind of but if you talk about like when I talk to someone, I'm not really no, I don't really think I can do that. But there is some, you know, people say verbal signs and stuff like that or non-nonverbal signs as well. But I don't know if it really works. What do you think?
I guess eye contact if a person avoids eye contact, yes, 90%, he or she is lying or just looking around the room.
No, I would disagree in this one because when I think when I'm just trying to think what to say next, I just, you know, wander around with my eyes.
No, no I'm talking about, sorry, I'm talking about the specific thing. So tell me the truth. What do you think about this, this, this.
Oh, like if we see like that and tell me the truth.
Yeah, just looking around instead of looking into the face and...
I mean, I've been deceived by people. Lance Armstrong, do you know Lance Armstrong? Famous cyclist.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Exactly, exactly. And he won a few Tour de Frances which were really difficult.
Cycling competition. And he took steroids, I think it was or some performance enhancing medicine.
Or drugs. And, yeah, everyone just thought he won the Tour de France clean and he did not cheat. But, yeah, he was a big cheater, and he looks like a genuinely nice guy.
Well, you know, I can tell you a lot about Tour de France story because, you know, I'm into cycling and...
I watch, yeah, I watch lots of, you know, programs about Tour de France. And I can tell you it was never like, you know, clean thing. They started by using drugs like they had some kind of substances with them and it started like that. So what do you expect like..?
Yeah, do you know? I think it's like almost every country must be guilty of this. Every... Yeah. And it's kind of, you know, how they expelled Russia from the Olympic Games. Like, it's kind of silly because I'm sure every country is guilty of that.
Come on, let Russia back in the Olympics.
Going back to how to spot liars. I read the book one day. Well, I practiced some of it, but, like, I'm not, like, professional. I'm just like ordinary reader. But it's not only about, for example, the eyes or something, it's about something like, about the whole body language. For example, if I ask someone something and they lie, even if, like, they practice not to lie, not to be detected, they will make a reaction after 5 seconds. It can be anything like they can cross their fingers, their legs you know. Yeah. So it's easy sometimes.
Gestures and body language affects.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm a terrible liar. I would get caught.
Yeah, yeah. Same here. Same here. Yeah.
That's why I never lie. Like, you know, my mom gets me when I, you know, tried to lie or just white lies. Just some kind of white lie. Like she asks me, Did you eat? And I'm like, Yes. And she's like, You're lying. Yes. I didn't have time. I'm sorry. So, yeah, maybe because of that, I prefer not to lie because I know that I will be caught. So...
I don't get it. I think you'd rather be an authentic person so that, you know, people can trust you. And when people trust you. So that's something good, isn't it?
Plus, it's a matter of self-respect. All right, if you don't want to hear any lies, don't tell lies. Right.
Yeah. Yeah, it depends. You can discuss it.
One question I get asked occasionally in Russia is, Are you a spy? I'm afraid I have to, I have to lie every day.
There's a knock on the door.
And the car. Let's get out of here.
The taxi's waiting for you.
Exactly, yeah. Don't spy in Russia. It's not worth it. You're going to get in trouble. Yeah.
Actually, people who work with such agencies, you know, secret agent, they are very, very good at spotting liars. Very good. Yes.
They can even cheat the polygraph.
Yeah. Yeah, they, they're being trained with that, so.
They can arrange their heart rates while they're talking, while they are being interviewed. So it's kind of...
A lot of jobs in America require polygraph tests. I think it's insane.
What do you guys think? Do you think it's a good idea?
Oh, you think, I mean, I guess it depends on the profession.
Not only the profession. Like if an employer is looking for good employees.
Like there should be trust, you know?
So most of people lie in interviews, in their CVs, so that's a good detection for especially if the job is highly important, you know.
Oh, if it's like Secret Service.
Or if you're, if you're working with the kids or the minors, maybe like the kindergarten teacher or like, I don't know, daycare or you need to be.
You need to be connected to polygraph tests.
Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like even if I were honest about something, I'd fail the polygraph test.
I don't know. I just would be really nervous. And I guess that's the way it was seen that I'm lying. I don't know.
Yeah. Well, let us know in the comments, guys, if you've ever done a polygraph test, I mean, maybe some of you have been interrogated in some special services. Oh, yeah, well, let us know. So, yeah. Have you ever personally used your lie detection skills against someone?
Like I had a friend. So I told him like, Tell me, tell me, like, I'm going to ask him five questions, and you have to lie in one of them, so I'm going to spot the lie. Yes, actually, I did it, I did it with my friend and my fiancee also. It's like, it's a game, you know, to spend time. So I discovered the lie using some techniques from the book that I told you about.
Oh, you should tell me the name of the book.
Just. I just, like, went to Google and I googled it like, Body language. Detecting lie. And you can see lots of PDFs. So you just download a PDF, any PDF, and you can read about it.
Okay. Thank you. So I would like to do that one.
Yeah. So have you ever spotted a lie in your daily life? Well, of course you have. But can you remember?
But not here in Russia, because I don't, I don't understand Russian, but, yeah. Back in the day so it happened. All right someone asked me to do something or told me something and I think, All right. It's not a correct thing and I can sense that.
So you can, you can see the smirk on the face or the way that they pronounce the words or whatever. And you can detect that, All right, man, it's not, it's not the real deal. And I'm not going to bother that, you know, so it happens. It happens. It's a life, you know.
Yeah. And sometimes it's just like the gut feeling like you know that this person's lying, but you don't have, like, any non-verbal. I don't know.
You don't need a sign for that. Yeah.
Yeah, you don't. You just feel it.
Well, sometimes people have gut feelings and sometimes people get the death penalty for, yeah, for the wrong reasons. So can you think of any examples when people were sent to prison incorrectly?
The Green Mile. Yeah. Okay. I have seen it many years... It's a three hour film, isn't it? It's a long film.
Why did he go to prison again? The main character. Why did he go to prison? Can you remember?
I guess the name was John Coffey, the huge guy, and he was accused of killing the three little girls. But he actually, he was trying to save them.
To protect them. And they just got the guy inside of the jail cell. But he has got a supernatural powers that he can show people that what actually happened in a way.
So as a premonition and he showed that the head warden like Tom Hanks, I guess.
Tom Hanks, right, Tom Hanks.
And he showed the real thing and they tried to save him I guess, but they couldn't manage.
What was dramatic about this movie is that at the end they all knew that he didn't commit the crime, they just wanted to incriminate someone. So they picked him, you know, yeah.
That was a great, great movie. Yeah.
But you know, I well before preparing for the podcast, I was, you know, reading some stories and I turned out that people actually were sent to prison because of non-verbal signs, because people were like, Oh, you're lying because of, again, signs. But it turns out that they weren't. So, yeah. Yeah. So that happens. I guess.
What would make someone act in such a way to make other people think that they're lying?
Suspicious talk. So suspicious body language. I don't know.
You can just sense the vibes.
Sometimes, yeah, sometimes.
You can know that it's a lie and, yeah.
Yeah. Well speaking of crime, do you think that police should be allowed to stop people in the street and say, You look suspicious?
I think it's not legal to do this because a policeman has his job, and he like he, if he wants to make a check up or something, it's okay. But not, not like he cannot just come and say, You look suspicious, because what he did is a crime actually. In the United States, it's a crime because I saw some evidence from Law and Cime and...
I think here as well. You can't.
You cannot because why? You have your civil rights and he has his duty so that you cannot, like, just go and accuse someone to be suspicious.
Well, what do you think? If someone's wearing, like, I don't know, the pants around their knees and they're, like, walking around listening to gangsta rap, and they have something that looks like a gun.
Would you stop them if you were a police officer?
Because it is not suspicious, it's dangerous if you carry a gun.
Yeah, but it might just be a mobile phone.
Yeah. You should warn him or her before right put everything.
On the floor. What you're having and we can see clearly what you are carrying, and then you can just take an action. I don't know.
Yeah. Following protocols.
Yeah, yeah, protocols, in a way.
Yeah, all right. Well, what do you think are the benefits of being a trustworthy person?
Well it always strengthen your relationship with people and maybe your leadership as well because you know I try to be very honest with my students. Like it doesn't matter what we discuss.
Like I always tell them like, Okay guys, I do know that I may not know that, but that's why they, I hope, respect me too, because they know that I don't lie and they see me as a person. They don't see me as a robot who can, you know, translate all the words and stuff like that. They just can see it like, Yeah, you're just...
That's a good approach to take, I'd say.
So that's what I'm trying to follow, you know, that kind of behaviors.
As an addition to your comment, being honest is basically you have an ability to say, I don't know.
I don't know. It's simple.
And you don't feel like, you know, bad for that, because that's okay.
Let's google it and let's learn together, right?
You don't have to invent something.
Yeah, especially because as a teacher, you have the expectation that you.
Yes, of course we have a good knowledge of our subject but...
You know, even Cambridge dictionary doesn't know all the words. Like sometimes you type some words and like there is no such word. And you're like...
Look here. So how am I supposed to know that one? So, yeah.
I've mentioned this before, but the biggest dictionary in English has something around like 500,000 words. Can you imagine? There's like there's no way you can know 500,000 words.
Like native speakers would probably, like an educated native speakers know.
Yeah, I recently saw something about this. There was an interview and like someone was interviewing, I think a model or an actor, an actress, actress. So, he said snuck the word snuck S-N-U-C-K. So she said to him that they are both Americans. She said to him. Oh, there is no such word as snuck.
Well, like, to sneak in. You mean like.
She said sneaked with -ed, so...
So he did like this, Okay, okay, one minute. He brought the dictionary.
The past form of sneak is snuck.
So even like they are both Americans, but she didn't know that that word exists.
Exactly. Yeah. And even native speakers make stupid mistakes all the time, like I used to say, swimmed instead of swam.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's like one of the first things you learn if you're like, if you're at school.
Same for every language. Even in my native language, I forget a lot of words. I misuse them, you know. So it's something natural.
And the wrong pronunciation as well.
We do that in Russian really often.
The other thing is American English, British English. The past participles. So got, gotten. Yeah. So it's, it's so difficult even for like a professor of a language to remember this. So it's good to be honest and just to recognize that you can't know everything.
I love it that we're all being honest now. Like, we just it's, it just feels absolutely amazing that you can say, like, looking in a person's eyes, like, Yeah, I don't know what. And that's okay.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing to be embarrassed of. Absolutely.
Well, I've heard that like at schools, in Russian schools, like you have English teachers who are native Russian speakers and his students kind of bully the teachers.
Like, Oh, you don't know something. I'm like, Yeah, so what? And they're like, Okay.
Actually, I did. Like, I wasn't a bad person, but I did that to my teacher, linguistic teacher, yes. She kept saying arg, arg, arg. I said, What is this word? Arg. It was at university. Then she wrote it on the board. She is a linguistic teacher, okay?
A-R-G-U-E. Argue. But she kept saying arg. So for me I was like a little bit, I dunno. So I said it's in front of everybody like in front of 200 students in an amphitheater. And I felt guilty, I felt guilty.
Did you get a bad grade from her?
Yes, yes. She got her revenge.
Yeah. Right. But, yeah, I think that maybe teenagers or kids. They they can do that sometimes, you know, just to feel like they're smarter and stuff like that. But yes, as they grow up, they realize it was something.
I had regret later. It wasn't supposed to be like that.
But that's okay. I mean, that happens.
Anyway she like if she kept saying arg maybe students will copy that.
You just could have said it in, you know more like better way but, yeah.
Yeah. Well, obviously, if you come to us, of course, we can definitely point you in the right direction.
Good English practice. But at the same time, we don't know everything.
There is like, if someone claims to be I know it all, it's not...
That's lying. Yeah, yeah. You know, I've seen lots of advertisements like, Oh, I know everything. I will teach you everything you will possibly...
Yeah. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Pass. Thank you, no. But when the person says like, Yeah, I don't know everything, but I will try my best. I trust this person.
Yeah. So, yeah. Oh, I just had another thought. So we were talking about Amber Heard.
Before the podcast. Did you guys follow Amber Heard, Johnny Depp recently?
Yeah, the whole trial, me too.
And I mean, I'm just going to stay straight out. Johnny Depp. Yeah, I'm on your team. Does anyone, does anyone have any sympathy for Amber Heard?
She's beautiful, but that's it. That's it. That's only quality, I guess, right?
For me, I see her as, yeah, she's spoiled, you know? She's spoiled.
Yeah. Spoiled brat. Yeah. A little bit.
I don't know, I think she may have some, you know, problems with lying. Like, she's not just, you know, lies to lie, but, like.
Yeah, can be like some kind of not disease, but I'm not sure that this kind of thing exists, but still, like some disorder.
Disorder or maybe some kind of like when you don't understand it, you're like, actually. So I think that it may be something like that because, you know, she just keeps saying like, But it's true, but it's true and everyone understand that it's not true. And yeah, yeah, that's some kind of pathological thing, I guess.
And of course, she's a very talented actress and therefore.
That's great to cover up the lies.
It's a great way of yeah.
Yeah. She has a technique already.
What happened with the dog in the bed?
Well something happened definitely.
But was wait, wait, wait. So do you think it was Heard or do you think it was the dog?
I'm assuming that our listeners know what we're talking about.
Has anyone seen the size of it?
But Johny said it was definitely human size. So...
And their dog is like really small.
Oh, Amber, come on, Amber, just ruined the image, right.
They said, yeah, they said human fecals. So...
I guess you can distinguish.
Well, for our listeners, if you don't know what we're talking about, you need to read about...
Yeah, you can go on YouTube.
Yeah, we have a good idiom in English. You've been living under a rock if you don't know what happened with the dog in the bed. So just type in Google. Johnny Depp, Amber Heard.
Yes. And you're going to get some good English practice and maybe a little chuckle as well. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure that Amber did it.
I've got a question, right? Why?
Well, just to do some harm, I guess. It's not like, you know.
It's kind of. Yes, it's humiliating.
Yeah. We're having, you know, a good laugh here. But, yeah, if you think about that...
Think about your raking up that thing.
Bed in the morning. Yeah. Okay.
For me, I saw it as, like, she was using the feminine side of her to abuse...
To abuse Johnny Depp. I mean, like, you know, the feminism thing, you know?
So. And she was abusing him just to take revenge, to take money, you know, like.
So she went from absolute effeminate lady to...
Actually, the first trial was in England, right? Or...
And she lied, and she got to like, yeah, she won. She won the first trial but the second trial.
I guess she has to pay money, a serious amount of money.
And she was trying to get it from Elon Musk and he denied that, as far as I know. And, yeah. And after that, I didn't follow. What happened next?
Oh, I don't know as well.
Yeah. She's going to have to act in a pretty good film. Has a lot of money now.
Elon Musk was so smart to get rid of her and.
So that's why, guys, you shouldn't lie.
Exactly. Use the toilet, not the bed.
Yeah, but then they lie about something else. I think it was Johnny Depp who brought the dog into Australia. This was a different topic. So he brought the dog into Australia on his private jet. And Australia has very strict animal and animal laws or agricultural laws where you have to declare everything.
And I think if you bring... Well, actually my uncle, he brought his dogs to Australia because he moved there for a couple of years and his dogs had to be in quarantine for a long time. But I think Johnny Depp, I mean, love him. But still he went to Australia on a private jet and didn't declare anything and just brought his dog in. And the Australian Government I think gave him a pretty big fine.
There are violating rules. So, yeah. You're supposed to pay the fine.
Yeah. I mean, to be honest... What do you think, guys? Let us know. Do you think that Australia is a bit too hardcore with its agricultural laws? Do you think that you should just be allowed to bring your dog into any country you like? Or do you think that no, you need to protect other animals? Let us know. Would you lie? So. Yeah.
All right, guys. Well, like I said before, we have an aftershow section. I definitely recommend you check it out, because, like I said before, we have vocabulary lists which you can download if you subscribe to our special aftershow backstage chat, which you can find on Telegram. So definitely follow us there.
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