Hello, hello, guys. Welcome back to another episode of the BigAppleSchool podcast with the goal of the show is to help you improve your English listening skills by listening to us. My name is Benjamin, and today we have a special, interesting new format. Normally, we have only teachers from the BigAppleSchool on this podcast. But today we have a special guest and his name is Max Red. So welcome, Max. And, yeah, and we have two other BigAppleSchool teachers - Ugur.
Welcome, Ugur. And we also have.
And you will definitely know us.
So welcome. So this is a new format. So we're trying to bring in new people from different industries into this podcast so we can bring, can add some spice to the podcast and...
Yes, spice it up and make things more interesting. Obviously, we have a lot of cool things to say as teachers, but we want to hear experts from different industries bring their.
Expertize, their expertize on table, yeah.
Because this is something we have missed when we were talking about things, is that we only know, you know, everything on amateur level. So like, you know the very basics. So, yeah. Now we going to have an expert look on things.
Exactly. We hope this will be useful for you, guys. So enjoy. So, Max, welcome.
I think we need to say a word or two about Max. So Max here is a digital creator and an influencer in Novosibirsk. He's got a huge background in the event making sphere, and early in his career, he worked as an art manager in nightclubs. Is that so? How are you doing, Max?
Hi, everyone. I can speak English, as I said, but not very well as I want because I have not studied at BigAppleSchool. So I can speak English not so good.
Why red? It's an easy answer. Red it's hair.
Oh, I thought that, you know, some sort of.
No, no, no. When I take pseudonym in English.
Red, one of the men from England said me, You can also take Ginger. Я такой, Why Ginger?
Max Red, you know, it's so easy to remember.
Easy to write. So I think it's kind of a cool pseudonym.
And it has two syllables, so it's easy to say.
For night club, for Djs, for mc, for dancers. If you remember your pseudonym, your nickname and easy to remember, it's very good. So I take Red.
Cool, because like Max Ginger would be like maximum alcohol, ginger ale.
Maybe you can make a drink some day. You can make a beer.
Baikal. Please, Baikal, sponsor us.
Yeah, that would be great. Well, since you are our first guest, you know, I think it's would be kind of interesting to know about your English learning journey. Where did you study English? How long ago? Tell us everything.
Okay. About more than 20 years ago at school. When it was a Soviet Union not Russia. It was USSR. Yeah?
In my village, in Altai Territory. It's the first time in our school, опыт.
Experience for teachers, for children to learn English from first class.
From second school. Окончание школы.
To I graduated school everyday. We learn the English every...
Every. Wait a second. It just hit me every day.
We have one or two lessons every day.
Am I kind of jealous? Yes, I am.
But when the Soviet Union...
And not so good situation in country. Our program close, but our teacher don't want to close. And we decided that, decided, yeah?
Decided that we must learn English. Продолжать.
You just go on or continue.
And we learn English, all of the books which was at school in this time. And at nine class we finish all...
You get determination, that's great.
Right. That's commitment.
Books, audio. After that we decided we must do fairytale, спектакль.
Like, like a show. Kind of.
Yeah, yeah. We school plays in English and show for our...
You've mentioned you were growing up in a village.
I feel like this is goals. Like this is what we have to have.
About 6000 people's population.
Oh, my God, dude, you're lucky.
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So basically what Max had at school learning English every day, you can get it there in the chat.
Yeah. But I have no practice, and that's why I forgot many words, more than ten years after finishing school.
Yeah, because if you don't practice the language it is easy. At least, you can have a conversation. At least you can speak to people.
Yeah, I think in English if you haven't got боязни?
You haven't got fear, exactly.
I haven't got fear to speak English and that is one problem, которая является основной проблемой.
Which becomes the main basis.
If you don't worry to speak English and you're, Okay, I can speak English but, okay, I do many mistakes.
This is something everyone should keep in mind. Don't be afraid.
Yeah, don't be afraid and that's all. If you don't be afraid, for example, if some friends visit Novosibirsk from foreign countries they cannot speak Russian any time. One year, one year from Iran. One year they live here. They also can speak mistakes. Моя пошла. Я хотеть танцевать.
Yeah, but they can get the main message.
Main message, okay, we understand, for us, for friends, it's not so serious.
Absolutely not a problem.
Yeah. If you're not like a politician, it's okay. You don't need to to have, like, perfect, one hundred percent English.
If not специальный, технический язык.
So it's not the technical language, yeah, yeah.
If we discuss, speak, it's okay.
Yeah, yeah. And also, another thing you can do. I mean, I don't drink, but you can definitely drink a little bit. And that will help you. That will help you speak freely.
The language barrier just falls down.
When I was at university, I did Italian and Russian and I had an Italian oral exam and I was really nervous.
No, you're not about to say what I think you're about to say.
I think, yeah. So I had a shot of vodka before the exam, and that helped me so much. It calmed me down.
It relaxed me. I mean, you can't be drunk or anything.
Vodka connection, people. Vodka helping people.
You know, it used to be like Nokia connecting people, we get to change it.
So, Max, tell me, when you were at school, did your teacher was, did you have a good teacher? Did she, did your teacher correct you a lot?
A lot. So but were you, how did you get so confident? Уверен в себе. How did you get to that kind of level where you feel confidence?
Как у меня получилась эта уверенность?
I think that when I was a child many, каких-то левых мыслей нет, говоришь и говоришь.
Oh, my God. That's so true. When you're a child, you don't care.
You don't give a damn about what other people think.
It's only when we are... That is so true.
When I was in kindergarten my старший брат.
Older brother had a dictionary, Russian English dictionary like this small. When I take first time and...
Foreign words, what does it mean? And I take in the pocket.
Go to the streets. And that's why my relatives thinks that I want to learn a foreign language. And so it's one of the reasons why they put me in this new experimental class that I need to learn English.
Just think about it, because one little dictionary.
Yeah, yeah, one little dictionary.
Yeah, how it made huge difference basically, yeah.
Grey. For me, it was very interesting. For me it was very interesting Japanese language.
Oh, you did the Japanese too.
It would be a little bit hard, you know, to do that at school in Altai.
Maybe a little bit tricky.
Because it's very interesting иероглифы.
Characters, right. But we haven't got, of course, in our school Japanese language, but was English.
Well, that's cool, that's cool. So, wait, are you saying that you are speaking now English? And that's only from school? You never learnt English after?
So what about when you're in nightclubs? Do you speak any English in clubs?
I can speak with people from another country for my job, for my work. I can understand. I can write because Google Translator.
Yeah. When I entered the university.
Novosibirsk Pedagogical University.
I'm a teacher of mathematics.
But I want to enter for foreign language faculty.
Who knows otherwise, we would have been sitting here as teachers of BigAppleSchool otherwise.
I didn't pass Russian language.
I receive, I need receive five, I receive three, but for English I receive five.
For mathematical faculty it was зачет/не зачет.
Ah, it was just pass or not pass.
Yeah, Я такой, Okay let's go to the mathematics. I know mathematics. I love mathematics.
That's so interesting. So you got a background in mathematics, kind of teaching and branding, and art management.
Nightclub producing, yeah.
So wait, wait, you have a lot of different spheres like art management, branding, maths.
I think mathematics, it's...
As this is what my sister said. My sister's a mathematician. She's like, Math is the queen of everything, queen of sciences. And you like, Yeah, right, right, right. She's like, You don't understand.
This is number one. Yeah. Well, let's talk a little bit about your job, not a little bit. Let's talk a lot about it.
Okay. And one interesting. Okay, one interesting.
When I entered mathematical faculty, if you visit our Novosibirsk Pedagogical University, it's very big. For me from village it's very big also.
I entered this university and I don't know where is the room, my classroom. I don't understand. Okay, I'm late. I'm late for the English lesson.
Because it was another корпус.
Yeah, it was kind of another...
It is another wing. Yeah.
I'm late. And tuc-tuc. Open the teacher, Who are you? I'm Maxim, sorry, I'm late. I speak English. Она такая, is it your group? Yeah, yeah, I'm from mathematics faculty, my group. I answer in English. Okay, second question. Are you sure that you must be here? Я такой, Of course, this is my group. No, no. Beginner or...
And like board. And a pencil. Я такой, Okay.
Goodbye. Next room. I enter, so I'm Maxim, I'm late.
Она такая, Where are you from? I'm from village, Altai territory. Она такая, Okay, where you learn English? Я говорю, At school. Она такая, Translate me, please, this text. I translate this text. Она такая, Okay, see you в конце сессии.
Yeah, in the end of term.
Okay, all right. So you did well in the first lesson.
Она такая, For you it's not new in this lesson.
Interesting start, you know, of your study.
That's fun though, that's fun.
Я такой, Okay. It's so easy to study in your university.
But then you're approved wrong.
And then mathematics, then algebra, geometry, mathematical analysis.
Oh, that sounds horrible.
Yeah, и я такой, What is it?
Yeah, and do you like to watch English TV or American TV?
Sometimes. I can watch English TV, English channels. But I need to think for two languages. I use, then I must translate.
Transform it into Russian.
Translate. Анализировать информацию.
Analyze information. So it's more energy.
For example, if I see Terminators, I know these films, I can see in Russian or English. I know what's going on. I'll be back.
That's cool, though. That's cool.
Yeah, I understand. It can take a lot of energy when you're watching in English language.
For example, I like Stand ups, for example, in English.
That's so hard to understand.
That probably the hardest genre.
But I need to understand the context.
But it's so difficult. Sometimes you miss, because sometimes you need to have, like, background information, like who are they talking about? Or they make jokes about some show you like I I've never heard about this show, yeah.
What's going on? What is it?
Yeah, this is one of the most difficult genres. I agree with Ben.
Because you have to know, yeah, the culture and everything. Yeah, exactly.
I think that English speaking people also if they see our Stand ups, many jokes.
Yes, Benjamin can confirm that it's difficult sometimes to understand the jokes.
Yeah, for instance. I've been watching, you know, Городок, you know that TV show?
But I can't really understand a lot of it.
Benjamin is old in the soul.
I can't understand the half of it because.
Many young people in Russia don't understand Городок also.
That's also true, yeah. Did you try something like Comedy Club?
Well, I've been watching, you know, Борямба.
Борямба. This really funny guy on YouTube.
And he plays pranks on people in Moscow.
You have a very interesting set of things and taste, you know, things you watch.
Ask him about music. Ask him about music.
One question for you. Where you find this..?
Material. For example, I want to understand how you, in Google. I want to see Городок. Very old in Russia.
YouTube is amazing because it's like a labyrinth, you know, and you can just go through it. I mean, I type...
You got lost in all this.
I just think, what do I like to watch in English? I love watching, my native language. I love watching police shows. I love watching prank shows.
Police shows. We have many TV channels only police.
I love police shows. Yeah, I watch FSB arrests.
You can see НТВ and that's all.
Well, what do you like? You like comedy. What other genres do you like watching?
Oh, adventure, comedy. Oh, of course I love detectives.
And psychological detectives.
It's very interesting when you see the films I think, Who is the killer? Who is this?
I love Agatha Christie. So it's like this.
Come on. I've been dying to move on to talk about his job.
We can speak, for example, about my work in nightclubs.
What came first? What came first? Was it branding, was in nightclubs?
NIghtclubs. That was the first.
What exactly were you doing? Yeah.
I was the promoter of the nightclubs. First I was the mc.
Oh, that's how you got into all this sphere?
Yeah, I was that man who speak not understanding words in the microphone. Come on, come on, put your hands up and that's okay.
How did you get into this world? Was it from university? And you had friends who went to clubs.
When I was at school, I like спектакль.
Plays. I like different parties at school. We organized this party with my friend. We're preparing different kinds of parties for high class. I studied at Music School. I was playing a trumpet.
When I enter for the university, I meet with many people. I think that meeting with people and can google. Гуглить.
To google, okay. Two skills connection with people and can speak. And skill to Google it's two skills which need all the people if they anyone.
Like a skill to find information.
To find information and...
Because you know what is interesting though, is that when you, for example, applied to some American companies or European companies, one of the most key skills they want to have in a person is networking. And, you know, how good... Are you good at networking? Prove it. And if you're good at networking, it makes you a valuable asset to the company. So this is key.
I think also when I invited for my team any задач.
And tasks, first I ask, You can Google?
Sometimes people say, Of course I can. And then it turns out that.
So find me this, find me this. One minute.
So come back. Well, when I entered university, I met with many people. One of these people was my friend DJ. His name is Roman. And his pseudonym is DJ Craft.
And he was a light master in nightclub.
So once upon a time, they come back to общага.
Dormitories. Yeah. Dorm is like общага, dormitory is like общежитие.
I live five years in dormitory.
Yeah. Was it a good dormitory or was it a dormitory with?
No, no, no. I mean, what dorm was it the first or the second one? I mean, at Pedagogical University there are four...
Did you have cockroachers?
I studied at pedagogical university for five years. Stayed in the dorm for five years. I know what you are talking about.
Max, did you have cockroaches at university? Тараканы.
They are friends. The first friends which I meet when I open the door.
He's not joking right now.
I opened the door. Many, many. Okay, let's begin to meet. So Roman come back and said me, Do you want to work in the nightclub? Of course, I want, DJs, go-go dancers.
Girls. Of course. Мне еще будут платить?
Of course. How many? 100 rubles for the month. Okay, let's begin our party. I go to the club. So after that I was mc, then I was a manager of publicity.
Event coordinator maybe, yeah.
Then I was an art director and grow up, grow up. My finish profession was управляющий.
Manager of the nightclub.
How many years was it between the mc and the manager?
I work this event. Направление.
I work in this event sphere about 20 years and I was manager of the nightclub and one nightclub about more than ten years. We were one of the nightclub in Novosibirsk that works every day. We have people every day. It was the Base club in Березовая роща.
We have more people on Monday, not in holidays. Because we do stuff party for the all the people who works in restaurants, in nightclubs, for dancers, barmen, security, photographer.
Who have to work at the weekend.
On Monday. So it was the second interesting thing in this. They receive tips on Friday and Saturday. They go home, sleep, then Monday because that's the party for them, they, Wow, that's cool.
And our barmen don't want work on Saturday or Friday because...
Most money comes on Monday.
Yeah, yeah. Because if come barman to barman of course it will be tips.
Because they know how hard it is, yes.
They give tips. My barman said me, Maybe, can I work on only Mondays? If you work very good on Saturday or on Friday you can work on Monday. Yeah. So I work in the club and I need to understand and I need to придумывать.
To come up with, to think of.
Think about how invited people for every day. It's very difficult.
Of course. I mean, Tuesday, Wednesday working week.
Yeah. So we, me and my team, we imagined different kinds of...
Concepts, things that invited people. Now it's the name of all of this marketing.
20 years ago, we don't think that was marketing.
There was no name for it.
We need in this month 5 million rubles, for example, our head of. Учредители.
The owners. We need to give them money because it's a business so how we can do it.
So back in the day there was just no name for it. It's now we have marketing.
20 years ago it was, Okay, Red Bulls, cigarettes.
A little whiskey. Let's begin. And different kinds of ideas.
So, and what about now? What do you do now? What kind of projects are you involved right now?
And now when our club closed all of this background переложить.
Well, how would you say that? Переложить.
You're throwing me under the bus.
So I'd say, like, I use this background.
Yeah. Okay, you're right. All of this background, I use in marketing. Now, I understand that it was a name marketing. That was a...
Brainstorming. That's was PR.
And other words. And now all of my backgrounds, all of my опыт.
Experience I use for generate different kinds of гипотезы.
For different kinds of направлений.
For example, clothes, many clients, it's the showrooms of clothes. Then of course HoReCa Hotel, restaurant, clubs. Личный бренд.
Personal brand also. Many ask for this.
So now you are not limiting yourself to, let's say, one sphere.
You work with any basically.
The basis is of the basis. But for different kinds of ниш. It's уже детали.
Well, yeah. Different details.
Well personal branding, you know, and personal brand. This is something we hear so often these days.
Because without this basically you can not become successful in everything. But how, what is it?
I think to две вещи это как?
Two things, personal branding and...
Oh, корпоративный. Like corporate.
Yeah, it's... No, no, no. I want to speak about personal branding. First and about bloggers, influencers. For me from the people of Soviet Union. For me, it's different. Different things.
Okay. For example, you're a blogger, okay?
Turn off all the, по-другому скажу.
In other words, for example, for me bloggers it's равно.
Bloggers the same as journalists who can write interesting.
Who can speak verry interesting. I think that is the main blogger, that is a blogger. if you're dancer so stupid dancers I think is it not...
This is TikTok. That's TikTok.
But what about, let's say, what are they called? Lifestyle blogs.
They still have to write about yourself like in an interesting way.
You must discuss, you must show so interesting, so насыщенно.
You must use so interesting words when your describe your opinion, your ideas not, I go to sleep.
So, wait. This is on the one side and personal brand.
Bloggers and influencers.
Bloggers for me it's who interesting people like this.
Influencers who can organize many followers for any social networks. So I can dance like TikTok so Даня Милохин. You know this?
No. I live in a cave. I live under a rock.
Imagine like, you have three very old people.
It's very good. You don't know who is Даня Милохин.
Yeah, yeah. So influencers and bloggers. Personal blog. For example, if turn off all social networks, who are you with no social networks. Who are you? Он такой, я не знаю. For example, in Novosibirsk we have Денис Иванов.
Well, that's name is hard not to know.
Денис Иванов is the Novosibirsk restauranteur.
Yeah, yeah, restauranteur.
Very popular in Novosibirsk. They have many кофейня, restaurants. For example, if he say that's not good cooking in this restaurant.
People won't be there. Yeah.
If this word said, for example, a blogger like, мамский блог.
Мамский блог, oh, I don't know.
Some moms say, Okay. But the most people in Novosibirsk say, Who are you?
Yeah, so people will, like the amount of influence is different.
And if we turn off social networks Денис Иванов is Денис Иванов. We know who is he.
So he is the owner restaurants without social media.
Oh, that's good. Okay, so basically personal brand is something who you are.
Who you are without social networks. Who are you, who are you, fundamentally.
I've never thought about that.
I think that is one of the main idea of personal brand.
And so how do people find you when they need your services, when people need you? How do they find you?
It's the one of the main channel where they people find.
For example if you want to find юрист.
A lawyer? Of course we tell some our friends.
Oh, I mean, this is how I find everything. I just, you know, post something on Insta, like, Hey, guys, I need help, can you recommend me? So this is how I found my Spanish tutor. Love it. Only by the word of my mouth.
I've got a question, actually. Is word of mouth more important than advertising? So advertising, like, you know, adverts.
So is it like лучше, чем рекламировать? Сарафанное радио, что важнее? What's more important?
What's more important like what?
What's more effective, sorry? Более эффективный.
So we have word of mouth or advertising, реклама.
These people more warmer for you. And these people you need объяснить.
Explain why you need with me. These people think, Okay, my friend said me that he is a good guy.
I need to work. For example. Some people ask me where I can study English, where I can learn English? I said, you can go for, for example, for my friend BigAppleSchool. Okay. Any variants? If you want, you must go to BigAppleSchool. I don't know any вариации.
Any options. Any other options.
Because I know how Andrey.
Andrey is the BigApple boss.
Yeah. How he build this school. How long, how many interesting people work here. So I recommend.
The level. Basically you know this is good level for sure.
How good low level here. So also about, for example tooth.
That's absolutely. I actually have a good example.
That's funny. We were just speaking about dentists.
Before you came today because. Well, yeah.
I just got a message from my dentist, like, hey, how are you doing? Oh, but, yeah, actually, how we found him. I love my dentist, really is a great guy, but I just ask my friends like, Hey, I have the situation. I need a good dentist because I have bad experience with some dentists, so I don't really trust anybody.
So they say, Okay, this one really tiny clinic, I would never have even thought. You know, to look into this, because usually when we look for ourselves, when we Google.
Yeah, we want something like big clinics, something that people know about. He used to work at a tiny clinic that I had never heard of and I thought, I don't care. My friend recommended him so she knows he's good. He is incrediable, really. And I'm like, Damn.
Also I visited a dentist. It's the first time when I sleep.
Sleep and dentists, they're...
So, let's say, you have a small business. This is a small business like, I don't know, a restaurant, a new dentist, a new business. What should they focus on? Should they focus on word of mouth like or should they focus more on advertising?
I think all the business must use all this two. Because the money in this time and these people can be your clients, for example.
Long run. They listen about you. Okay. For example, I don't need in this time a dentist, but I listen to that's who told me.
So you kind of, you know, like an add the number maybe.
I write to my telephone, save and that. For example, three months.
Later, I need a dentist. Oh, I check it.
So it's more about when you get the clients, right now or...
Or later, basically. Yeah. But how do companies brand or brand, or people brand themselves like, how to start? Because, you know, everyone says like personal brand is important and obviously it is. But then you think, okay, I want to develop my personal brand and you like, How to do this?
The first question which I ask when these people come to me. I ask for what?
So we would say, look, first set a goal.
Why you want to do it. Okay.
Why? It's the first question. The second question - How we can оценивать.
Yeah, yeah. To judge the results.
So how judge the results that we достигли результата.
Okay. I say that in Russian and you translate, okay.
Oh, come on, come on. No, you can do it. You can do it.
Okay. How we can как мы будем оценивать результат, какой метрикой?
Which metrics are we going to use to rate?
See what I've told you. How people doubting themselves, you know.
Which metrics we use that we can understand that our result received.
For example, some companies, it' going to be. Oh, I see so, let's say, for somebody the result would be, let's say, money like that much.
Reputation. The amount of clients.
Many people don't think about. Okay I want a personal brand. Okay, for what?
How we can understand that your personal brand is that same personal brand as you want? Many people want personal brand for when they go to the street some people. Oh, look.
When they ask me, like this задание. Task. I say, Okay, but you need so big...
Okay if you no money, you must have many, many, many times.
Well, it's one of the two, yeah.
For example, when I go to the streets, some many people come to me and say, Hey, Max, how are you? Hey, Max, how are you? When my relatives...
They, like, Are you famous?
They visit Novosibirsk, and they go for a walk with me. Some people, Hey, Max, how are you? My father ask, Two millions people in Novosibirsk. How you meet. It's in очень маленькая вероятность. It's very small...
My relatives don't know anything about my club's work. They know that I work mc.
My mother have no Instagram.
I think it's good for you right.
Yeah, it's very good for me.
My father and my mother have Одноклассники.
I mean it's the social network.
Oh, of course, yeah, you have that platform.
Social network for old people.
Yeah. So, they're there, I'm here. It's okay. So go on. Hi, Max, hi, Max. And I my clients say, If you want these results, you need 20 years. 20 years when you organize different kinds of parties. One of the biggest, my party, it was цех. Обское sea. Scores.
5000 people were at the party.
So, for example, we organized parties in Altai, Sun vibes.
Oh, that was you? Well you're among people.
It was about 10 people who organized this party.
Just you understand, guys, this is big, like for Siberia.
Many people from foreign countries, DJs visit this party.
Yeah, before COVID basically.
Yeah, before COVID. Yeah, it was amazing. It was not so commercial party. We organized, дебет, кредит.
So for clients I say, if you want this - 20 years.
Just 20 years. What's that.
Они такие, No, I need six months. Okay, six months, six months. Sum of the money, which I paid for the 20 years we need...
It's gonna have a lot of zeros in it.
Yeah, yeah. And then if you give such as sums, we can...
You know, I do not know if that's, if that's the case or not, but I very often hear about people who are like, I need result. Like next month, I have 5000 roubles.
Oh, yeah. Poor graphic designers. They have this problem.
You know, like, I have little money, little time, but I want it to work. Oh, no, that doesn't work like that. No.
Okay, let's do it. I show you how we can receive results, but it's what, it's, it's very interesting cartoons in Russia we have in Soviet Union. I don't remember the name шапки. Okay.
Hero of this cartoons ask another hero сшить.
But one, for example, ruble. Okay. Can you sew five hats for that price? Okay. And he sew five hats but so small.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's do it.
Well you got to, you know, formulate everything as clearly as possible, so.
Well, guys, we have an aftershow. So if you're interested, absolutely join us and you can get the vocabulary list, like I said before hand to this show, so you can improve your English. And Max, for our audience, how can people find you?
People can find me on Instagram.
Extremist organization in Russia, I have to say.
Yeah, yeah. Two days ago our government included.
Yeah. Included it. Yeah. So we have to say, don't use Instagram, but how else can people find you?
In Russia we saying Нельзя-gram.
Нельза-gram, нельзя like not allowed.
Not allowed gram. But Max.
Tell us now that we are kind of rounding it up you know. How do you feel? How was it? Your experience of speaking English for the whole hour.
I am absolutely, very, very...
Very positive because I have practice.
Was it difficult for you?
See, guys, don't be afraid to speak.
For me difficult to remember my Vocabulary.
Because 20 years ago it's a very far.
Yeah. Vocab is important. Yeah.
I think people must begin to speak. Mistakes or not mistakes.
Don't worry. You must speak.
Well, guys, join us on our aftershow in a second, so check our website www.BigAppleSchool.com of course, you can find more videos, more articles and more information about the courses we offer here at the BigAppleSchool. So that's it for today. Thank you very much, guys. We'll see you in the aftershow.
Катерина Рудых
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