Hello, hello and welcome back to another episode of the BigAppleSchool podcast with the goal of the show is to help you improve your English listening skills. My name is Benjamin. I'm from London, and today we have three guests. Our first guest today is...
So what's new, guys? Welcome back. Pretty cold.
But it's actually mild today, I think. It's not, you know, like harsh.
I guess it's because of snowy.
We usually start our podcasts with talking about the weather. I know some of our listeners might get a little bit bored of.
But you know it just changes all the time.
We have to talk about some mild is what, -19?
It's kind of okay. You don't really feel that cold, you know.
Yeah. I walked 30 minutes today and it was somewhat tolerable.
If you are well equipped like with clothes.
Exactly. So big news for Ayoub. Something happened inside his mouth.
Yeah. Guys, I had terrible, like nightmare, okay. Nightmare in real life. So I removed my wisdom tooth, and it was, like, really painful.
Was it one wisdom tooth or was it a couple?
Actually like a week before they removed the wrong tooth.
After three days like I removed it, at night, after three days, the pain remained and it worsened. So when it worsened, I had to go to the dentist the next day because I didn't sleep at night like, literally, I couldn't sleep.
So I went to the dentist and he was like, testing which tooth is hurting me. Like, I was already in pain. But when he touched that tooth, all right, like, I just jumped from my place.
And anyway, he removed it. And the pain stopped after three days because I had some complications during, like, three days like this. But now I'm okay like, yeah.
And when they removed your tooth, did you have anesthesia?
What kind of anesthesia was it?
I have no idea. But you know, when he injected me with anesthesia there, it wasn't enough, actually, because when he touched the tooth again, it hurted me again. So I had to put a lot of.
Wait, so they removed the wrong tooth first?
So it was also wisdom tooth or...
So it was like the molar.
They took it from my right side.
I had to deal with my face for maybe 4 hours like this because I became numb, I didn't feel my face.
Yeah. It's horrible. So how did you eat after the procedure?
Oh, that's still painful. Damn. So for how many days did you have to have that soup?
For two days. And the third day I started like, open my mouth. And also, I was taking a pill. I forgot its name, but it's not recommended to take it. All right. It's very strong.
Even the dentist told me it's not recommended to take a lot, just take one.
What is the name of the pill?
I don't remember. It starts with K like this.
No, no, no. It's a Russian brand, I think.
Yes. And you cannot take it without a prescription.
So it's not an over-the-counter pill, by the way, over-the-counter for our listeners. It's a medicine that you can get without a prescription, so over-the-counter. So it's not an over-the-counter. You need a prescription.
And when I read about it, they said that it's used by people who get, like, broken bones. And people with cancer.
That's terrible. Yeah. I mean, I guess technically it is a broken bone if you consider your... Well, do you consider your teeth to be bones?
I mean, I'm not a doctor. I dunno. But aren't they somewhat classified as bones?
I guess it's probably the same tissue.
Yeah, perhaps the same tissue. Damn. So wisdom teeth. I still haven't had my wisdom teeth.
I'm still baby. 30 years old and I still haven't had.
I still have one left here. Yeah.
And was it really painful for you to remove them?
It was. It was. I mean, the first one was really painful. I was nearly crying, actually. I was taking a lot of pills as well. Maybe not as bad as you had it. But, yeah, I was just lying, you know, like, oh my God.
So, yeah. But the other two, it was not as bad, so it was fine.
Well, I have my two teeth removed on the upper.
Yeah. Yeah, upper gums, I guess you can say.
Yeah, but I still have those and they are about to be removed and I'm really scared. I don't go to the dentist because they are inside the gums and...
I guess it will be really painful. So I'm just scared. Yeah, but, you know, I have a great dentist. Like, I've removed these two teeth and I've never felt any pain, and it was really fast. Like, I was like, That's it? He was like, Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not going to the dentist ever again.
I was like to tell you about a short story that my student told me last time.
So she told me that the dentist recommended her to remove the wisdom teeth, but she didn't want. And what happened after that? She told me I removed the sixth tooth, the one before it. And after time they made something in her mouth so that the wisdom tooth becomes the sixth tooth.
Yeah, they kind of change places.
Yeah. She told me I didn't suffer.
I didn't even know about this procedure.
So it's like they moved it from its place, you know?
I thought it happened by itself.
Damn, so, yeah. But by the way, guys, we have a podcast on Teeth and dentistry. If you look back in our long list of podcasts, which you can find on our website www.bigappleschool.com. Also, just let you know you can find our podcast on Apple Podcasts, Yandex Podcasts, VK and of course you can see the video version on YouTube.
Another thing I need to mention is that we have a private chat on Telegram where you can get access to the aftershow portion of this podcast, and those people who subscribe to this private chat can get a list of vocabulary that is discussed in this podcast, which is extremely useful for people learning English, which is most of you listening to this show.
And you also have the opportunity to discuss the topics of the podcast with us so you can practice your English writing skills. And if you want to leave a voice message, you can practice in some way your speaking skills of us. Another thing to mention is Ayoub recently conducted an online speaking club. So how was that, Ayoub?
Well it was great experience for me and for the participants also, I hope. The participants were very knowledgeable about the topic and they were eager to know more about it and to express their thoughts about it. So, of course, for the first time, like...
It was on Telegram, yeah.
Telegram, yeah. In our Telegram channel. So it was about how do you see the future. Like, how can you see the future?
Yeah. So that was the topic of the club.
Yeah. Speaking about technology and medicine, and transport.
Yeah. So that was great, actually. And I really recommend our followers to get involved in this, like, this project.
Because it's going to help them a lot with their vocabulary, with knowledge.
It will allow them to express themselves, to use their English. Right.
That's who we are. We love to interact with our students.
So you guys keep following all telegram chats, BigAppleSchool Telegram Chat. We can find more details about future online speaking clubs. So, yeah, definitely stay tuned. Another thing I want to mention, I want to welcome Nataly Kuzmina if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Welcome to the private telegram chat and thank you for subscribing for six months.
So welcome, Nataly. Thank you very much. So definitely share your thoughts with us on the Telegram Chat and make use of the chat as much as possible so you can improve your English skills. Okay.
That's a good introduction of the topic actually.
Why is yawning so contagious?
Yes, I was yawning too. Yeah.
Yeah, it is a little contagious. What is about yawning that makes people, other people around you want to yawn?
I think it's about, you know, community and when one person yawns so other people also want to sleep and they all go to bed all the same time.
So, you know, actually, if you haven't noticed, I've just noticed that, I don't know, Natalya maybe with you who started drinking and then everyone.
Yeah. So it was like, okay, I'm not gonna do that.
We're all tribal animals.
So for those of you who haven't caught on just, yeah, we're talking about sleep today. That's today's topic.
So yawning. Why do humans yawn though? What is the function of yawning?
Get more oxygen probably.
Yeah. I heard something like that.
So why is it considered rude if you yawn in a meeting or another contexts?
Actually it's a good question.
Well just because people may think that you are like you know, bored or stuff like that.
But where does it come from?
I don't know. Like when I sit and my students want to yawn and you know, they try to hide it, I'm like, Do that, finally.
That's what I do as well. If I have students and I need to yawn, I just hold my face.
And I tell them, Okay, do that. That's okay. Why, like, you know, hiding that?
It's like, yeah, it's like when they do it, when they yawn, it means they want to sleep from what you are saying. It means you make them feel sleepy.
Yeah. It means, like, that's why, people who are bored, they do this because they think that what you are saying is boring. Because it happens to me many times also.
Yeah, but where does it come from, why?
Yeah, we can follow it logically. And that's it. For example, sometimes when you are in one place and listening to someone like you get tired from that. We as teachers, we face this a lot of times of course.
Yes. So that feeling is called being bored. So he's, he just one doesn't want to listen to anymore, so he wants to sleep instead. I think this is the process. What do you think?
I don't yawn when I'm tired always. I yawn sometimes when I'm awake.
Yeah, sure. So it's not necessarily that we're bored or anything.
No, no, in the matter of boredom.
But it can be just due to lack of sleep, for example, like...
I love how my pet rabbit yawns.
Oh, that would be amazing.
Normally rabbits, they don't express themselves very much because they're prey animals and they don't want to be seen by other animals. But sometimes when you see my rabbit yawn, it's so funny because he's like his whole face.
Yeah. Well, next year is the year of the rabbit.
We see a lot of my rabbit. Do you guys sleep like a log? Which is a great idiom to use. So do you sleep like a log or do you sleep lightly? Are you a light sleeper?
I'm the lightest sleeper ever, I think.
Even small noise, even, I don't know, like refrigerator making some noises, you know, it's like. But it's happening, like. Totally.
Does the fridge keep you awake in your apartment?
No, I think I'm a log sleeper.
Yeah, I think most men are log sleepers.
In rare occasions, yeah, I can be a light sleeper, but not because of the noise. Just because of, maybe sometimes stress, you know, like, so, yeah, in this case, some rare cases. But usually when you put me in one place, that's, it's like, yeah.
And when you just had your wisdom teeth removed, what was the sleeping like? Was it really difficult to fall asleep?
Before or after removing?
After it was easy to sleep because of the medicine, I think. And also I couldn't sleep because when I sleep, I always sleep on my right side.
So if I slept on my right side, my chin would hurt me. So I had to sleep from the other side, and I felt a bit uncomfortable. But later, I just adapted to it.
Oh, yeah. I remember I had a piercing, you know, like helix or something that, like, on top of the ear. And I also usually sleep on the right side.
Like I go from side to side. So doesn't your shoulder ache really?
Well, if it aches, I just, you know, take the other side of course.
Yeah, but this one is most comfortable somehow.
Sometimes I wake up not feeling my arm, actually.
Yeah. We in English, we can say for our listeners, you call it a dead arm.
Yeah. Like you lift it and it's like...
Yeah. You move your fingers and you do not feel them and you're like, What's happening? So I don't really like this feeling.
Well, I sleep on my side as well. Sometimes on my tummy or belly.
I never sleep on my tummy. Never.
I cannot sleep like that.
Same, same. I cannot breathe also.
You turn your head like that.
Oh, must be so comfortable.
I mean, there is a good pillow, it's okay.
It is a little bit sometimes.
Can any of you sleep on your back?
I tried. I mean, it's supposed to be the healthiest way to sleep.
I would love to do it but I can't do it.
So there are special pillows, you know, it holds your position, you know, somehow and you can't really turn. But it's better for, like, your body for like beauty as well, you know. But it's really uncomfortable I don't know.
For me it's about fear because I had some experience in my childhood. I don't know if this happened to anyone. And because I never ask anybody about it, like when I tried to sleep on my back.
Okay. I cannot breathe like I really like I sleep. Then I jump from my bed and suffocate. Like, really suffocate. So when I was child, like, it gave me some fear. So that's why I don't do it right now. Like, I always think that if I do it, maybe I wouldn't wake up, you know?
Oh, so that's maybe some kind of, you know, think I don't know what it's called in English. But, you know, I've heard that people do that on purpose. So you lay on your back and you just try not to sleep, but you don't move your body. And, you know, then you start like getting some kind of nightmares or something like that. I don't remember what it's called, but you can see demon...
Oh, sleep paralysis, something like that.
Yeah, I've heard of that term before.
So, yeah. And that's why I'm afraid to sleep on my back. You know, I had some kind of experience as well. And no, thank you.
I think you mean like when you lay down and you can't move and you like, kind of paralysed.
Yeah. Sleep paralysis I think. Yeah.
So I heard that if you...
And you can have some hallucinations.
Yeah. And I've heard that you have to lay on your back, actually.
So that's why I never do that. I'm afraid of that.
Well, what about your mattresses? I mean, do you have a hard surface that you sleep on or is it softer?
That's the biggest issue this week, you know.
Because we've been having some troubles with the mattress, I guess, because it seems to too soft for my boyfriend, but it seems to okay for me. So we cannot decide which one we have to buy next and...
Can't you just buy a mattress cut it in half...
And then stitch it together.
So I don't know what to do. So it's actually kind of problem when you know, you cannot find the right.
Yes. And do you have a side on the bed that you take?
Yep. I always sleep on, what is it, I don't know, kind of right sight, I guess.
For me. I like to sleep like against the wall. Yes. Against the wall.
It's really hard for me to sleep when I don't have a wall nearby. That's why I sleep on the right side. Yeah, I guess it's, you know...
It may come from the childhood because my mom said that I used to sleep in what is it called, I don't remember that...
Cradle or something like that.
Oh, cot or cradle, maybe?
Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. Yeah. And you know, it has kind of walls, so that's why you get used to sleep like that. So every time when I have to sleep and there's no walls, so I don't really feel comfortable, I should say.
It's also about feeling safe, you know.
Yeah. It something natural comes from.
I guess. Yeah. When there's too much space... Yes, I'm pretty sure about that. You feel like, okay danger can come from here. And monsters under the bed, you know.
Yeah, when you were kids actually were you afraid of monsters under the bed?
But outside, yes. For example, at night we had the house where there was a garden. And at night, I cannot even go to that garden. Like, for example, if I wake up from sleep and I cannot. I always imagine that there is something there, you know, that wants to hunt me or something.
I remember I used to be scared of gypsies. Yes.
Because, yeah, my grandma told us, you know, me and my brother, some stories were like how, you know, they some, they made some spells and they can, you know, say something bad. Yeah.
And I was like, I remember I was in bed and I was like, Oh, my God, gypsies are going to come and...
Not take me, but do something terrible to me. You know, it was actually scared, you know, like it was dark outside. I was like, Okay, there are gypsies somewhere.
Well, you know, actually, it's, you know, big thing in Russian culture, I guess, especially at the beginning of the, you know, 21st century, because there were many stories of gypsies stealing children. And we were told not to go outside, for example, without friends.
Yeah, something like that.
Sorry if we have any gypsy listeners. I'm sorry.
No, that's okay. It's okay. Like, not everyone's like that, for sure.
Yeah, I mean, we were raised this way and we were told that you should be kind of aware maybe.
But it's kind of funny because I've never been scared of anything else.
Just like ever. Darkness, dogs. I mean...
It was for a short period of time, but I was really terrified.
In winter, we don't have many stray dogs here in Novosibirsk. But in summer sometimes you can hear them on the street. Oh, in Algeria. Do you have stray dogs?
Yeah. Actually something weird happened. We had a lot in my childhood I remember like groups of dogs, like, roaming around, you know.
But lately you can see just one dog in a blue moon.
Well, because in the summertime, they make a lot of noise, at least outside of my apartment, because I live next construction site and it's a dog's paradise.
And they bark a lot. Yeah.
I don't know. I try to pet them all the time.
Sometimes it's dangerous.
I know. So once I was bitten by a cat.
Yeah. And I had some shots, you know, anti-rabies shots.
It was in Thailand, actually.
Are they big shots? Was that the tetanus shot? Because I know one shot is like a really big shot that.
I don't remember. I think just regular ones. But they were like six of them.
Well, to be honest, I don't really get woken up in the middle of the night, even if it's a dog. The only thing that would wake me up is a car alarm. That's the worst.
Oh, your neighbor's screaming. That what sometimes wakes me up.
Yep, yep. And it happens usually, like, at four in the morning, and I just lay and, you know, look at the ceiling and listen in to what's happening there. So, Gosh, it's it's horrible.
So you never come to them and tell them?
It makes no use actually.
Yeah. They just, you know, they're that kind of...
If you like, Hey stop there.
You know, I just, you know, take something hard and, you know.
Yeah, the pipes. Sure. Yeah, I knock on the pipes, but it doesn't stop them. So I'm like, okay, I'm not going to go there, cause definitely something's happening.
So. Yeah, and it's 4 a.m. Okay, I just lay down. Maybe I'll sleep.
So you don't have that rule where you could call the police, for example.
You can. I've actually researched this because, well, you live in my old apartment, don't you?And do you hear construction noise anymore?
Yeah, I had a big issue at the apartment below us, and I was having Zoom lessons with some students or something, and I had to, they were, they weren't just drilling. They were...
It was just another level of noise.
Oh, I think I heard this one time. Yeah.
So, it was so noisy, yeah, I remember this happened like, above you're right.
It's actually below. It sounds like it's above.
You never know what it comes from actually.
This apartment below is completely bare. There's nothing inside it. And they love making.
For me, I thought it's a vacuum cleaner or something. But when you made the sound I remember it, yes.
But they took it to another level of loudness and I was reading all the laws on the local government website and apparently there's some limit like 17 decibels or something like this.
But it's so difficult to prove. And I downloaded an app on my phone and it was really 84 decibels. I'm gonna go downstairs and speak to them and then, yeah, then I called the person who manages all the apartment buildings and I called her and I said and she was the rudest, rudest lady I've ever come across.
So I went to the concierge in the building. The building has a concierge really lovely, really lovely people. And he said, Yes, speak to the manager. And as soon as I called, the first thing she says, Что хочешь?, What do you want?
It's literally like that. And I could not believe and I said, Oh, I live in this apartment on this road and we're having some problems with the construction noise. And she said, Is it against the law? And I said, Well, apparently is 84 decibels. And she said, How, how are you going to prove it?
Yeah. And I said, Can I take your number for WhatsApp, please? I can send you, yeah, the details. And she said, Yeah, I'll take it. And I sent her screenshots and she did not reply.
She doesn't care. Rudest people. But at least I think the law is after 10 o'clock, you can't.
Yeah. After 10 o'clock you can and then you can call the police.
But between 1 o'clock and 2 o'clock you can't do as well. And the neighbors were doing it at 1 o'clock and I was so proud. I took a screenshot...
And I think, yeah, do I call the police or not? And, yeah, I didn't know if it was worth it. Yeah. At least they don't do it at nights.
But, Ayoub, do you have..?
But like, maybe two weeks ago there was someone who put loud music.
And in that time, I was a bit tired. I wanted to get some sleep, and I couldn't. It was like, really loud. I could like hear it in my house. It happened for the first time. Like, since I came here. Since October.
Never happened. But this time it happened, so.
But have you heard the loud arguments of some neighbors?
For like a whole year, like there was this, like, old lady screaming at this, like timid man for the whole year. And sometimes it would happen at night. And I'm quite deep sleeper.
And sometimes I would hear rather unpleasant, let's just say, sounds of love.
Oh, yeah, that happens with a neighbor so next.
And they weren't exactly like romantic, but it was kind of like, so.
Why don't, like, people construct some soundproof houses, you know?
It's more expensive, I guess.
Yeah. Yeah. So that's why, you know, and I think it will take the construction to another, you know, I mean time.
Yeah, it would take longer probably.
Back in Trabzon in Turkey, I was in a house where it was soundproof and it is in the middle of the city.
And how did you sleep? Was it nice?
Really. Like you don't hear anything from the outside, but once you open the window, you can see that all, like noise, you know. But you close the window. Nothing like really nothing.
Is it creepy, would you say?
It wasn't creepy. It was actually playing in my favor.
So I quite like a little bit of noise outside, like on the street when I sleep.
Not a carnival. But I mean, like, I like the noises of cars going by.
Yeah. Like you can concentrate on them and fall asleep faster.
Yeah, the clock's ticking probably.
Not, not the boy races. To be honest, I can't help but laugh when you hear the people race at two in the morning. Oh, it's so funny. Like, they know they're waking everyone up. So it is funny. Yeah. So how many hours do you need to sleep every night?
Yeah, lucky you actually.
Sometimes 6 but 7. Average 7.
Or lucky you. Yeah. I need about eight or nine.
Yeah. Yeah. Eight. I'd say. At least.
Yeah. What about you, Olga?
I don't know anymore. Like, you know, I used to go to sleep at 12 and wake up at 8 a.m., and I was fresh and, you know, ready to go. But now when I do the same stuff, it just seems like it doesn't work. I find it hard to get up.
Like I wake up at 8 a.m., but I can get up at 9:30, for example, because I just cannot do that. I don't know what's happened.
Because of the winter maybe, because it's dark outside.
So if you compare to last year, it was the same or..?
I guess it happens when, yeah, when the sun doesn't really...
What's the absolute minimum you can function on?
Six is probably the minimum, five and a half six.
I couldn't really function that well, but I mean, you can get a school day finished.
Actually, yeah, for me it's funny. When I sleep like five or less hours per night, I get super energised, I get super, you know, productive. But then in the end of the day, I'm like, I'm dead.
I can't do anything. I just like a zombie, you know.
In a normal day. Maybe I could function on for 4 hours.
But I experienced worst. If you remember where I told you about coming to Novosibirsk from my country, I had a jetlag. I didn't sleep maybe for more than 23 hours like this. From 22 to 23 hours. No sleep. Just action, action, action.
I don't even remember how I slept.
Really, I didn't, like, I couldn't concentrate. I couldn't function, like, in a good way. Okay. So there was no acuity, actually. Once I went to the sofa, I slept with my clothes on. Like, really I just slept.
Yeah, I remember I was travelling to China. I think I told you about that before probably.
No. We're speaking about Indonesia, but in China it was worse.
Yeah. When I travelled to Indonesia, I probably didn't sleep for, like, 48 hours. Like, two whole days. And then...
That is dangerous, isn't it?
Exactly, exactly. But I felt good. I just slept 6 hours after that, and I was like, okay, let's go explore. Yeah. So I was excited. But then when I went to China, so it was a flight, an overnight flight basically from Novosibirsk to Beijing, I think, or something.
Then I had a connection flight and so I didn't sleep for again two days probably.
Yeah. And then I came to the place where I was working, I was going to work and the manager took me to a restaurant. He wanted to show me the city, but he was like, You look good. You look good. Don't worry, you're going to sleep tonight and to get to feel good.
And I was like, okay, so. And then I went to bed and I couldn't sleep. Like, the whole night. I was just, you know, I was overexcited. I was shaken. I was super tired, like I was exhausted, but I couldn't sleep. I was just, I need to sleep, I need to sleep. But I couldn't.
So, and that's the worst feeling I think. When you really want to sleep but you can't.
Yeah. I've got some good words for our listeners. We have to about groggy, drowsy. It's the feeling of like feeling kind of the opposite is alert. So groggy, drowsy is like to not be in aweak kind of state, to be in a cloudy, not good state, basically.
Usually they use this word that drowsy like for someone who drinks alcohol.
Yeah, you're right. Well, I have some celebrities here. Guess how many hours of sleep they get per night? Let's start with Elon Musk. What's his usual sleep routine? How many hours does he sleep?
You've read it. Well tell me.
6 hours. Well, remember 6 to 6,5 hours. So I have in front of me a little paragraph. So he wakes up at 7 a.m. usually, and he discovered that 6 to 6.5 hours is his sweet spot.
And here's a little quote from him: "Sleep is really great. I find if I don't get enough sleep, I'm quite grumpy. I could drop below a certain threshold of sleep. Although I would be awake more hours, I would get less done because my mental acuity would be affected". I guess mental acuity here means like your mental capacity.
All right, well, can you remember Dwayne "The Rock"? Can you remember?
It's unusual actually for human beings.
Yeah, well, he's very lucky, so apparently he gets up at 3:30. Yeah. Just silence.
Do you think medically it's okay to sleep three hours?
Not really. I don't really think so.
But there are some people who can actually.
I was teaching a politician and he was like also a businessman.
Back in Turkey like I had a lot of students from different categories of society. So he was like mid-aged person like this. And he was a politician and he had to work a lot. And after that he started his own business. He said for ten years he sleeps only 4 hours a week.
Sorry. So, sorry, a today. And from my like observation, I taught a lot of people his age but I saw that he looks older.
So it affected his physiology.
After Barack Obama finished his presidential term, he looked so much older afterwards.
I mean, stress makes you look older obviously.
Well, you mentioned 4 hours a week. So, you know, the Navy SEALs, the US Navy SEALs, they're like kind of they're not... Would you call them, the Spetsnaz in Russia? I don't know...
Something like that. The Marine Spetsnaz.
Yeah, they're kind of similar.
I remember that from Call of Duty.
Exactly. Call of Duty. Apparently they have this training program Hell Week. And during the whole week they're only allowed 4 hours of sleep throughout the whole entire week.
Yeah, there's a reason why it's called Hell Week.
But they do it only for one week, right? This training.
Yeah, I mean, just two. Yeah. Harden them. They're supposed to be tough old people.
Yeah. I mean, speaking about military. It's something supernatural, you know or superhuman, but, yeah, they ask so much from them.
Yeah, well, I mean, every country has special forces.
Any country Special Forces are amazing. It doesn't matter which country it is.
And I think it's not really humane.
I mean they volunteered to do it.
Because the SAS in Britain they have a training course where people sometimes die.
Yeah, occasionally they die.
Actually a friend of mine died because of this.
Yeah. He was studying with me at high school.
He had a good life. Like we graduated together.
He went to business departments to study, you know, but something in his head told him, okay, go to military service. I don't know. He had everything he wanted. Like he had a car. His father gave him a shop, but he wanted to be like, I don't know.
It's a specific category of people I think, you know, who want. I don't know why people go to military.
I would love to be in the military.
Yeah, unfortunately, I couldn't because of a medical condition, I was going to join the military.
What the hell? Guys. What is like?
I just love the order of it.
Natasha, we won't get it. It's just, you know, men's stuff, I guess.
Probably. 'Cause they love that kind of stuff.
Yeah. Okay, fine. I understand. Shooting is fun. You're kind of...
It's not just, it's the uniform.
Exactly. It's like girls, you know, dressing up or something like that.
I guess it's all about feeling like you feel strong.
You feel community. You know.
You feel like you have a purpose, which you can see.
And it's just fun as well, you know, in a strange way, it's fun.
Yeah. It's like kind of feeling of control, danger anyway.
But unfortunately, don't get much sleep in the military.
I think normally I believe national service in Russia people wake up at 5 a.m., 6 a.m.
Yeah. Something like that.
Don't remember but, yeah, I think so.
Yeah. It'd be quite tricky to fall asleep at night in barracks full with other people.
Oh, yeah. Especially when they study, they study for five years like everybody in the universities. And they sleep in these huge rooms like barracks.
Yeah. It's crazy. Like hundreds.
Does Algeria have national service?
Actually, they were trained by Russian KGB.
For the same system. Yeah. In the past, they had a treaty and, you know, military treaty like this, even now we have military treaties. But I know that our national security was trained by the KGB during the Soviet Union.
They probably don't get much sleep either.
Of course, yeah. I don't know, like much about them, but about sleep and such things. I don't know about them, but of course, it's something that they should do.
Yeah, well, if any of our listeners have served in the military, do let us know how much sleep you got during your national service. Quite interesting to hear. So, Dwayne "The Rock" 3 to 5 hours. And what about Donald Trump? Can you remember?
3 to 5 as well. He's, whatever you think of him, he's an absolute energy machine. He has so much energy, like he does, what I remember he did four or five shows in one day. Can you imagine doing four or five shows in one day?
That's impossible. Like, where do you get the energy from?
It's incredible. 3 to 5 hours.
I know where he gets it from... I guess.
Cocaine? No, no. He doesn't take anything. He doesn't drink.
How do you know? I don't know.
Well, I'm sure maybe he might take some medication.
But I guess it's not really in humans' nature to be, you know, to have that much energy and to be that productive when you know, when you find out that someone's that productive, then you find out, Oh, they take something.
Or again, for example, one day they're really productive and the second day they just sleep.
Yeah. I could not be a politician. It takes so much energy.
You would need to... A lot of people criticize politicians but, yeah, of course there are things to criticize, but they are pretty like superhuman anyway.
Exactly. Something like that.
You have to be able to get that position and fight everyone, and deal with the criticism. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
I don't think that they would do this without the help of some drugs. It's impossible for human being.
Some stimulants, you know. I'm not sure what exactly.
Something should be there.
Coffee? Probably not enough.
Yeah, caffeine, you know, just pure caffein.
Oh, maybe we can talk a bit about sleeping pills and stuff in the aftershow, so we'll get to that later on. What are the negative effects of sleep deprivation?
Death? I mean, if you don't sleep for a long time. I mean, the longest... I think it's about ten days or something. I mean, the world record. I just had an article during the class and it was... There was information about a guy who said the world record and I don't remember exactly the number of hours, but it was about ten days, I think.
I don't remember. But, yeah, in the end, he was feeling, he was having a lot of hallucinations all the time. He couldn't concentrate of course. His friends helped him like to do the basic things, you know, just to eat and so on.
So he couldn't sleep, like just because he couldn't?
No, it was experiment. And he was 17, you know, like a teenager. And he was, like, curious how long he could go without sleeping. Yeah. Yeah. And is still a recruit. You know.
Like over a week ago, I had a student of my own called Надежда and she had a presentation in classroom about sleep deprivation.
Yeah. And she explained a lot of points, but the main risks from sleep deprivation is getting obesity disease.
Diabetes and some illnesses that are related to women also.
Well, and heart diseases probably.
Ageing also like fast ageinig.
So it's really dangerous. And it gives you also some weaknesses in life you know. For example, you always feel sleepy and you don't function like a normal person and you're not active, you know.
Yeah, I definitely on another, I definitely think that teenagers, they need to be waking up late. They need to wake up later. My opinion, because like when you come to school, sleep deprived, like, how are you going to concentrate?
Yeah, you cannot grasp anything.
Yeah, I think school should be from, I don't know, 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. maybe.
Rather than 8 a.m. to... What is it? What is it in Russia 8 a.m. to 2 p.m?
Yeah. What about Algeria? What time did you have to go to school in the morning?
It depends on the school. Like, for example, at primary school, we started from 8:30 to 5 p.m.
And we have one hour of break.
So it's university it was not stable like sometimes, you know, you go, you don't go.
Did you do five days a week or six days?
In Russia they do what, six days usually?
That depends on the university. In my university it was five days a week.
So, I mean, schools like in general.
It also depends on schools. No, no, no.
Most schools have six days.
Yeah, but most of the years I've studied five days, so.
So in England, five days. Yeah.
Do you ever have, like six days?
8:45 to 4 o'clock I think every day.
Yeah, but we had a big long break at lunch.
We don't actually like it 20 minutes maybe.
Really fast. Yeah. You just go to a canteen. Actually, it felt a lot, you know.
Not at university where you have to go like through the whole university.
Actually universities we had 40 minutes.
I think the longest. I don't remember. Maybe we had the same time, but.
But at school 20 minutes tops.
Yeah. Well, speaking of sleep. Yeah, I just remember coming to school every day, and me so tired.
It would be so much better if you could just wake up at 8 a.m. more than 6:30, whatever it was, I woke up.
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